Online talk:Easter Eggs/Archive 3
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Contents
- 1 Praise the Three...
- 2 Down the Skeever Hole
- 3 Fallout
- 4 Watchers = D&D Beholders
- 5 Borat reference?
- 6 Winston Churchill
- 7 Official Easter Eggs from Jeremy Sera, Lead Content Designer at ZoS
- 8 Another Lady in the Lake
- 9 Easter eggs in the Gold Coast Tomes books
- 10 Thieves Guild DLC: A Flawless Plan - Cross Shinji's Truth
- 11 Varon Baro - Baron - Varo
- 12 Sabrina the Teenage Witch
- 13 Fire in the hold!
- 14 Roosevelt
- 15 Sir Cadwell of Codswallop - Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington from Harry Potter
- 16 Easter Egg (Pop Culture): Musical "Cats," Andrew Lloyd Webber
- 17 Sunstone
- 18 Assassin's Creed
- 19 Treasure Island
- 20 Fibonaccus Spiral
- 21 Mao Zedong quote
- 22 The Onion
- 23 Find X number of Y
- 24 Lewis Carroll
- 25 Reference to ESO mechanic
- 26 Zelda Ocarina of Time reference in Hew's Bane
- 27 Doctor Who scarf reference?
- 28 Harold and Bob
- 29 Fawlty Towers
- 30 Tasmanian Tiger
- 31 Troll bridge
- 32 Musical Runestone
- 33 Running of the Bulls
- 34 Landfall and Zero Summing
- 35 Clockwork City Precursor - Star Wars
- 36 Umbrage Two - Simpsons?
- 37 Skeleton stuck to column of ice
- 38 Opulence
- 39 The Fugitive
- 40 Player Housing
- 41 Fawlty Towers reference
- 42 The Simpsons - Ralph Wiggum
- 43 Rorschach_test
- 44 Edwina
- 45 Bugs Bunny
- 46 Cernunnos
- 47 Warrior's Heart Ashes (dark soul reference?
- 48 The Roswell Tv series
- 49 Factotum walks like the original morrowind walk
- 50 Riverwood White Hen
- 51 Game mechanics reference
- 52 Saltbae Meme Reference
- 53 Calf-Skin Baby Shoes
- 54 Finger bone of Saint Felms
- 55 Donkey Kong
- 56 Justin, Scott, and Speigel
- 57 Titanic
- 58 Borderlands - Crimson Raiders
- 59 Memetic Skyrim Player Character
- 60 Revenge of the Sith
- 61 Star Wars: Attack of the Clones - moved from page
- 62 Stranger Things
- 63 Baby Shoes, Never Worn
- 64 You're Finally Awake
- 65 First Church of the Holy Sweetroll
- 66 Sleeps-at-Fires
- 67 BioShock Infinite
- 68 Star Trek
- 69 Craig Sechler
- 70 Deca Dezno and Resting Semaj IRL ref
- 71 Odd scripted behavior of mobs as EEs?
- 72 Dr Suess One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish
- 73 Norse Mythology
- 74 COVID-19
Praise the Three...
I heard a random NPC say "Praise the Three and pass the bottle of sujamma, eh?" This seems to be a reference to the "Praise the lord and pass the ____" trope, though which version remains unclear to me. The earliest version of this that I could find was a WWII-era song called Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition, but this song may be referencing a 1939 movie called Drums along the Mohawk. What do others think? --Xyzzy Talk 15:34, 24 November 2014 (GMT)
- Honestly, it is such a common trope, and Praise the Three is an extremely common dunmer phrase, along with the dunmer propensity to drink, I don't see enough for a specific easter egg... Jeancey (talk) 23:07, 24 November 2014 (GMT)
- Agreed. Tropes tend to point away from specific references, not towards them. Zul se onikaanLaan tinvaak 12:14, 25 November 2014 (GMT)
- This seems to be a strong reference to the song's name. "Praise the Three", "the Lord", "the Nine" etc. are definitely common sayings but the "and pass the x" part is certainly intentional. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 23:18, 25 February 2020 (GMT)
- Agreed. Tropes tend to point away from specific references, not towards them. Zul se onikaanLaan tinvaak 12:14, 25 November 2014 (GMT)
Down the Skeever Hole
This is a seemingly obvious reference to 'down the rabbit hole' though I see no similarities to the book or the metaphorical essence of the phrase. Silence is GoldenBreak the Silence 19:25, 8 May 2015 (GMT)
- Well, it's kind of become a common figure of speech. After Alice in Wonderland, it was in The Matrix, and probably a few other things I'm not aware of. So without any connections to a specific work, I can't really agree with including this. Zul do onikaanLaan tinvaak 01:42, 9 May 2015 (GMT)
- It's a common figure of speech because it originated from the book, so every use is thereby a reference to Alice. Looking at the phrase literally it doesn't make sense without the context it's given by Alice in Wonderland, so it's a reference to the line, not a mere play-on-words or something else. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 23:18, 25 February 2020 (GMT)
Fallout
- There is a quest monster called 'Deathclaw' at Bleakrock.
I've moved this from the page. I wouldn't support its inclusion, since ESO's Deathclaw is a monstrous bat rather than a chameleon or whatever. There's also the cat Mittens Q. Deathclaw III in Ebonheart. The name is pretty generic for a creature that has claws, so I can't really see the connection aside from the name and IP. —Legoless (talk) 16:54, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- Agreed. Zul do onikaanLaan tinvaak 21:23, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- Ehhhhhhh, I mean it somewhat resembles a deathclaw in a sense, but the fact that its level is only listed at 4 makes me more unsure because deathclaws in Fallout are hard. Is it some kind of boss? Or just a unique monster? I wouldn't rule it out simply by name, but I just don't see enough of a connection at the moment. •WoahBro►talk 21:35, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
(←) I've been watching a Let's Play of Fallout 1 recently, and I think it's more likely that ESO's Deathclaw isn't named after the race of monsters in the Fallout franchise, but after the specific Deathclaw that had been terrorizing the settlement known as The Hub, which was rumored to have been a ferocious beast, which lived in a cave just outside the settlement called Deathclaw's Lair. This is similar to ESO's Deathclaw, which is also rumoured to be a ferocious beast, terrorized Bleackrock, and lived in a cave just outside of the settlement, also called Deathclaw's Lair. --Rezalon (talk) 11:48, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
- I don't really buy it, "beast terrorising the countryside" is standard fantasy. —Legoless (talk) 14:13, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
- In any case, it seems to be a Fallout reference. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 23:18, 25 February 2020 (GMT)
Watchers = D&D Beholders
They look too similar to have not been inspired by the iconic Dungeons and Dragons monster. --Rezalon (talk) 02:46, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
- Could be, a beast that's entire body is an eyeball is an uncommon trope, but the watchers having tentacles and multiple eyes certainly helps. Don't know if there's enough to make a connection, but maybe some of the names of watcher attacks could be additional DnD references. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 06:30, 26 February 2020 (GMT)
Borat reference?
In Mournhold, there's a Nord named Rigurt the Brash, who in his own words leads "our Glorious Expedition for the Nord Cultural Exchange to the Dark Elves". This reminded me of the movie Borat, the full title of which is "Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan". Now it's close enough to maybe be intentional, but different enough that I can't be sure. Both Borat and Rigurt are comically oblivious to the cultures they are trying to learn about. Their command of the English language is similarly stilted. Certain words are used in both of their opening lines: "Cultural", "Glorious". I just don't know if that's enough to call it a real Easter Egg. Any opinions? — TheRealLurlock (talk) 03:10, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
- I never really got a Borat vibe from Rigurt, but I guess I can see the similarities. I'd be sold if he ever mentions the "Glorious Nation of Skyrim". —Legoless (talk) 14:56, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
- I could see this as intentional if there were some more overt references, like one of Borat's catchphrases or something, but as it stands now I think it's still in the realm of coincidence. Zul do onikaanLaan tinvaak 20:48, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
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- I'm definitely supporting this (and not only because I love Borat haha). The wording is exactly what you would see in a Borat movie. Plus the exchange between two nations and a whole lot of embarrassing situations, and Rigurt's way of learning about the Dunmer (or Orc) culture is ... quite similar to how Borat handles it in the movie :P Plus that Rigurt later on in Wrothgar goes to propose to an Orc, which is a clear reference to Borat and Pamela Anderson, except with a funny twist which I thought was quite awesome. Besides, "glorious expedition etc etc" is not the way Nords usually speak in game at all so the wording is clearly intentional. Tib (talk) 11:30, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
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- Agreed, definitely intentional. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 23:18, 25 February 2020 (GMT)
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Winston Churchill
Per this, the exchange between Qadrima and Sakeeus is a classic rejoinder often (incorrectly) attributed to Winston Churchill. —Legoless (talk) 11:45, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- I would agree with that. Seems pretty open and shut. Zul do onikaanLaan tinvaak 21:47, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Official Easter Eggs from Jeremy Sera, Lead Content Designer at ZoS
So, I was in a meeting with six ZoS devs plus Jessica Folsom, the community manager, last night, and Jeremy Sera offered up the following two Easter Eggs:
Narsis Dren, the explorer, is a playoff of Indiana Jones. His first name is a place and his second name is a common surname. Actually a little surprised we don't have this on the page already.
Hrogar's Hold is a play on Beowulf. (I didn't understand this one).
Enjoy, they are official! baratron (talk) 15:30, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
- If they're straight from ZOS I think we can safely skip the requirement for talk page discussion. I'll add Narsis Dren to the page, and if anyone wants to clarify the Beowolf thing we can add that too. —Legoless (talk) 15:39, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
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- Hrogar is a reference to a man, Hrothgar, who according to legends was an ancient, pre-historic Danish king. One of the best known legends he appear in is the Beowulf legend. —MortenOSlash (talk) 15:47, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
- Is it just the name that's similar, or are there any other similarities between the characters? I have no problems with including it since the devs confirmed it, but ideally we should have something beyond "similar sounding name" to list on the page. Zul do onikaanLaan tinvaak 19:45, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
- Hrogar is a reference to a man, Hrothgar, who according to legends was an ancient, pre-historic Danish king. One of the best known legends he appear in is the Beowulf legend. —MortenOSlash (talk) 15:47, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
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- I think it's probably the quest as well. Heorot was plagued by Grendel, while Hrogar's Hold is plagued by goblins. After the battle, Beowulf/the hero goes to their lair, and finishes the job by killing Grendel's mother/the goblin chieftain. There may be some more specifics of the quest which I don't remember that would further support the idea. --Enodoc (talk) 15:15, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
- That works. The similar name and similar quests/legends in which they're involved make it pretty clear to outside viewers what the connection is, and since it was confirmed by the developers, I don't think there's any need to go into too much more detail. Zul do onikaanLaan tinvaak 19:34, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
- I think it's probably the quest as well. Heorot was plagued by Grendel, while Hrogar's Hold is plagued by goblins. After the battle, Beowulf/the hero goes to their lair, and finishes the job by killing Grendel's mother/the goblin chieftain. There may be some more specifics of the quest which I don't remember that would further support the idea. --Enodoc (talk) 15:15, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
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Another Lady in the Lake
The The Lady Mundus Stone in Auridon is located in the middle of a lake, just like in Skyrim. Seems like another example of an egg being repeated. --Xyzzy Talk 16:17, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
- The one in Stonefalls is located in the middle of a (lava) lake too. --Vordur Steel-Hammer (TINV1K) 16:43, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
- Seems reasonable. Zul do onikaanLaan tinvaak 18:18, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
Easter eggs in the Gold Coast Tomes books
1. Rise of the Red Sails - Brace yourself Abeceans. A storm is coming.
2. Glories of the Pirate Queen - Apparently, governor Fortunata is ESO's Chuck Norris. I'll be adding the text in a minute so you can judge yourself ^^
Tib (talk) 17:13, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
- I think the second one is a pretty clear reference to the Chuck Norris Facts meme. I don't understand the first one though. Could you explain? Zul do onikaanLaan tinvaak 20:47, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
Thieves Guild DLC: A Flawless Plan - Cross Shinji's Truth
I don't know if it qualifies as an easter egg because it is a part of a quest, but the part where you cross Shinji's truth and spread Tall Papa's Ashes in the quest 'A Flawless Plan' is practically identical to the scene in the movie Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade where Dr. Jones takes the leap of faith across the chasm and spreads sand over the camouflaged bridge so that his companions could follow. Thoughts?AgShield (talk) 16:34, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- Maybe inspired, but that same invisible bridge mechanic were first implemented at Rahni'Za, and magic bridges involving leaps of faith aren't new to TES lore. The Rahni'Za bridges are found in broad daylight and don't bear any resemblance to the Indiana Jones scene aside from the spreading of sand (which appears to be magical). —Legoless (talk) 17:44, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
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- To be honest, I haven't explored Craglorn yet so I'm looking forward to seeing the Rahni'Za bridges there, but I digress. Regarding the leap of faith, unlike the one in the Knights of the Nine where you needed the Boots of Kynareth in order to walk (back then, my character died a few times before I figured out that I needed the boots, I had a few laughs at myself afterwards), I believe that Quen's leap of faith was, in the truest sense of the phrase, a leap of faith. She blindly followed Zelsa's sarcastic advice without any other precautions, magical or otherwise. Regarding the bridge, I replayed the mission with an alt and I found that I can walk on the bridge without the visual aid of the ash, though it took me a few dozen deaths to go through eventually, though I tried crossing after retrieving the ashes and Quen was standing on the invisible bridge. AgShield (talk) 06:13, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
Varon Baro - Baron - Varo
One of the possible targets of DB Contract:Stonefalls is named Varon Baro. (No page yet.) It may or may not be a pun on the English noble title Baron and the Spanish word Varo (meaning noble, stout), the latter which folk etymology sometimes (probably wrongly) see as a possible origin for to the noble title Baron. Combined and having the first letters swapped, it becomes Varon Baro. —MortenOSlash (talk) 05:36, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
- Could be. It's an interesting idea, but that probably falls more under the heading of an etymology than an easter egg or reference. Zul do onikaanLaan tinvaak 11:35, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
- So only place to mention it would possibly be as a note on the sometime to be NPC page if it is noteworthy? —MortenOSlash (talk) 22:18, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Yeah, etymologies are placed as a note on the NPC's page, but there needs to be a solid connection. For example, Farkas means "wolf", which makes sense for a werewolf character. A supposed amalgamation of two words for "noble"? Doesn't make a lot of sense for a random assassination target to be called that, in my opinion. —Legoless (talk) 22:25, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
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Sabrina the Teenage Witch
The default name of the Japanese black cat pet is "Salem". This is probably a reference to the character Salem from the Sabrina the Teenage Witch franchise (popularised by a live action sitcom adaptation) who was also a black cat. —Legoless (talk) 18:16, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
- That makes sense. Zul do onikaanLaan tinvaak 20:31, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
- This could also be a common reference to the Salem witch trials, as the connection between black cats and witches is a part of modern witch mythology bordering to a cliché. —MortenOSlash (talk) 13:15, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
- Ehhh, I feel like if it's a reference to anything, it has to be a reference to Sabrina. Zul do onikaanLaan tinvaak 21:15, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
- This could also be a common reference to the Salem witch trials, as the connection between black cats and witches is a part of modern witch mythology bordering to a cliché. —MortenOSlash (talk) 13:15, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
Fire in the hold!
I googled the phrase "fire in the hole", as I was thinking maybe this quest name is a reference to it. And then I found this Grammarist page here which claims that "fire in the hold" is commonly misspelled/misunderstood version of "fire in the hole" :D I'm adding it here in case you think it makes sense :) Tib (talk) 13:48, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
- It's just a play-on words, that's not the kind of thing we list on this page. Zul do onikaanLaan tinvaak 15:49, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
Roosevelt
The default name of the Cave Bear mount is "Theodore", likely after Theodore Roosevelt due to his association with teddy bears. —Legoless (talk) 23:30, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
- I can see that being a reference. Zul do onikaanLaan tinvaak 11:56, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
Sir Cadwell of Codswallop - Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington from Harry Potter
The same actor - John Cleese. The same behaviour. The poetry about losing head:
- As I was going out one day
- My head fell off and rolled away,
- But when I saw that it was gone,
- I picked it up and put it on!
This is obvious! — Unsigned comment by Scraelos (talk • contribs) at 08:56 on 22 August 2016 (UTC)
- Is the poem you quote from ESO or from Harry Potter? —MortenOSlash (talk) 17:02, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
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- There is a poem by Sir Nicholas titled "The Ballad of Nearly Headless Nick," which doesn't include these lines so they must be from ESO. It isn't the poems being compared here though, it's the poetry being a reference to Sir Nick. It's not a strong reference, but given how almost every other big movie role Cleese has played has been referenced in the game this one is probably meant to be the reference to Sir Nick. Silence is GoldenBreak the Silence 19:00, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
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- The whole point of Nearly Headless Nick is that he's not actually headless, so that ESO poem (which seems to just be a common kids poem) isn't much of a reference. I can't see any other connections between him and Cadwell either; having "the same behaviour" is just John Cleese's acting style. —Legoless (talk) 19:11, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
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- I can confirm its from ESO. Given it's an exact copy of that real-world poem, which some places seem to call a nonsense poem, I think its just another one of those, though there remains the possibility it is both as there are numerous nonsense poems to choose from. Silence is GoldenBreak the Silence 19:32, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
- I guess I can see the connection, but I think it's probably just a coincidence. Zul do onikaanLaan tinvaak 21:53, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
- I can confirm its from ESO. Given it's an exact copy of that real-world poem, which some places seem to call a nonsense poem, I think its just another one of those, though there remains the possibility it is both as there are numerous nonsense poems to choose from. Silence is GoldenBreak the Silence 19:32, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
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Easter Egg (Pop Culture): Musical "Cats," Andrew Lloyd Webber
When you first speak to Kireth Vanos while she is employed in Enrick's Public House in Anvil, she says "Oh, you just missed it! My rendition of "Rememberings" from the Dark Elf musical "Guars" brought the house down. It's a sad, touching number a few light moments, but I've never seen the crowd laugh so hard. I guess I really nailed the high notes." This is a reference to the famous song "Memory" from the musical "Cats" by Andrew Lloyd Webber (which is based on a T.S. Eliot poem,"Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats"). - I am Trivious — Unsigned comment by 71.179.169.188 (talk) at 00:59 on 22 September 2016 (UTC)
- This sounds like a solid reference to me. •WoahBro►talk 02:46, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
- I agree. Zul do onikaanLaan tinvaak 10:03, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
- Absolutely. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 23:18, 25 February 2020 (GMT)
- I agree. Zul do onikaanLaan tinvaak 10:03, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
Sunstone
- The characters Allysin Cartier, Liisan Cartier and Alan-Tei are a reference to the characters Allison Carter, Lisa and Alan from the graphic novel "Sunstone" by Stjepan Šejić.
Moved from the page. —Legoless (talk) 02:57, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry I added this reference without discussing it in the talk page first. Do you find it is incorrect? It is actually mentioned elsewhere on the internet as well, including on the DeviantArt page of Sunstone's author. Feynn (talk) 05:13, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
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- Similar names are usually not enough, some other similarity would help to win over the doubters. Silence is GoldenBreak the Silence 10:30, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
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- As far as I'm concerned, the reference is definitely convincing enough. --Vordur Steel-Hammer (TINV1K) 17:04, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
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(←) If we're all in agreement, I'll re-add it to the page. —Legoless (talk) 19:56, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
Assassin's Creed
Just ran across a dead prisoner at Loriasel in Shadowfen. When examined, the text reads: Scrawled inside his shirt collar are the words "Subject 17." Desmond Miles was Abstergo's Subject 17 in the Assassin's Creed series. Aelina (talk) 19:21, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
- This is from memory, but aren't there various other subjects with different numbers lying around as well? I think that's a bit tenuous unless the prisoner in question is given a name similar to Desmond Miles, or has a similar appearance or something. Otherwise, it's just a coincidence. — TheRealLurlock (talk) 19:29, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
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Treasure Island
The group boss Captain Bones in Shadowfen is a ghostly sailor. He is accompanies by a monkey called Mr. Flint :P When you attack him, he yells "They're coming for my treasure, Mr. Flint!" Tib (talk) 22:35, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
- Very similar to the names Barry Bones and Captain Flint from the book, don't see how it couldn't be a reference. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 23:18, 25 February 2020 (GMT)
Fibonaccus Spiral
One of the new Crown Crate items is called the "Fibonaccus Spiral", which I think is a reference to Fibonacci numbers. - KINMUNE ﴾TALK﴿ 06:53, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
- The full name of the item is "Fibonaccus Spiral Hat", and a Fibonacci spiral is shown on the second illustration on the Wikipedia article, so if it bears any, even the slightest resemblance to the spiral, it is definitively a reference. (And in fact the hat does very much look like the spiral.)
- It is even so much in the face, not at all difficult to find, I am not even sure it can be called an Easter Egg? (Then again most of what we list as Easter Eggs are more cultural references than actually classical Easter Eggs, even to the degree Cultural References is the largest section of the Easter Eggs pages of the more recent games.) —MortenOSlash (talk) 08:29, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
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- Absolutely a reference. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 23:18, 25 February 2020 (GMT)
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Mao Zedong quote
See here for details: Lore_talk:Frandar_Hunding#Quote --Jimeee (talk) 11:10, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
- That's quite straightforward, of course we have to add this one! Tib (talk) 11:36, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
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The Onion
It's already mentioned on the achievement article, but the "Earthly Possessions" achievement in Craglorn is a reference to a promotional article published by The Onion. The barrel even used to contain an onion, before the ingredient overhaul changed it to Millet. —Legoless (talk) 03:39, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
- Definetly! -- SarthesArai Talk 16:19, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Are we sure that this is the order in which these things occurred? I mean, clearly there's a connection, but is the achievement a reference to the Onion article or is the Onion article a reference to the achievement? Or did the Onion actually coordinate this with ZOS so they'd reference eachother? It seems out of character for them to explicitly promote a game in this way - they mostly just make references to things that already exist. — TheRealLurlock (talk) 17:17, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Craglorn was released on May 22 and the article was published on June 12, but I think there was definitely coordination between the two. The Onion article is sponsored, so ZeniMax paid for them to publish it. It's also not their first weird promotion - they've had plenty of strange partnerships, like those Australian vacation videos or this mockumentary also published by The Onion. I still think it qualifies as an Easter egg even if it was forced. —Legoless (talk) 17:23, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Worth a mention on this page too, Bethesda and the Onion have certainly done these types of things before. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 23:18, 25 February 2020 (GMT)
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Find X number of Y
I found the Online:Make the Wilds Safer, Earn Gold note recently (In-game, the note I found is actually much shorter and cuts off after "tiger fangs", but anyway). Never played World of Warcraft or other MMOs, but wasn't it a trope for quests in these older MMOs to be very repetitive - such as "Go kill 20 wolves and bring back their pelts" etc. Although there is apparently related quest, it seems to me this note is poking fun at those sorts of quests in older games. --Jimeee (talk) 11:44, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
- Could very well be joking on it, yea, eso and previous tes games have had their fair share of fetch quests and the tone in the note seems to be making fun of it. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 23:18, 25 February 2020 (GMT)
Lewis Carroll
The Provisioner hireling Gavin Gavonne sends a message saying "Another delivery for you. Rough day. I barely escaped another Brigand attack. Despite what the locals might tell you I did not "run like a scared rabbit." More like a brave and noble rabbit, who happened to be late for an appointment." This could be a reference to Lewis Carroll's Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. - KINMUNE ﴾TALK﴿ 04:52, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
- From what I know about Alice (which is next to nothing, sadly), I'd say yes. -- SarthesArai Talk 14:53, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
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Reference to ESO mechanic
In Coldharbour, there is a journal called Captain Alphaury's Journal. In part of the journal, it is described how "We dispatched a couple of the creatures (atronachs) before we were forced to turn tail and run. For some reason, however, as we got close to the forest, the atronachs stopped chasing us. They suddenly seemed to lose interest in us and returned to the ruin."
This is a reference to the fact that enemies will turn around and run back to their location if they are lured too far away from it (to prevent luring enemies into towns or cities, or across the map), making them seem to lost interest. I think this is almost definitely an easter egg, although it's subject to opinion. AlphaAbsol (talk) 05:10, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
- It is more of a cultural reference to this sort of mechanic in MMOs rather than an easter egg. Jeancey (talk) 05:20, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
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- We currently have game mechanics listed as Easter eggs on the page, so I think this belongs there. Not all MMOs have leashed enemies, but ESO does and this seems like an obvious reference to it. —Legoless (talk) 18:47, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
Zelda Ocarina of Time reference in Hew's Bane
There's a Redguard dressed in what appears to be Link's outfit, sneaking around the hedges where a Hew's Bane guard is patrolling. I'm fairly convinced this is a reference to Ocarina of Time, in the section where Link is sneaking around guards in Hyrule Gardens to try and meet Princess Zelda. Here's some screenshots for reference. [1], [2] -Harkwit 74.4.89.137 17:29, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
- Wow, that does look remarkably like Link, and I think the bushes and so forth look a lot like the ones in that part of OoT, if I'm remembering it right. I definitely think this could be a reference. ~ Alarra (talk) 19:41, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
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Zelda
The npc Hazanah is a reference to the character Link, as evident in her choice of green clothing and her hylian looking shield. Furthurmore, the patrol of the guard and character hiding as well as the location is a reference to the Castle Courtyard location in the Occarina of Time.
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- This character has been posted a lot online as looking like Link. If the appearance wasn't enough, the patrol route definitely seems to be a homage too. Only issue is that the character is a Redguard woman instead of a elven man, but I think that might have been intentional as to not be too on-the-nose. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 18:37, 30 January 2020 (GMT)
Doctor Who scarf reference?
Someone in the chat on ESO pointed out the Brightly Colored Scarf item, and a couple of us thought it might be a reference to Doctor Who and the Fourth Doctor's scarf. The item's description is "A striped, multicolored, knitted winter scarf that seems absurdly long." The Fourth Doctor's scarf is multicolored and striped, and long; it is said that the prop maker didn't know how long it was supposed to be and used all of the wool she was given. ~ Alarra (talk) 08:26, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
- The comment on it being absurdly long seems connected, and given how popular the show is I don't doubt that this is a reference. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 23:18, 25 February 2020 (GMT)
Harold and Bob
I don't remember this quest, but The Price of Longevity has some base parallels to Harold and Bob from Fallout. A talking tree, entering a cave and destroying an objective resulting in its apparent death, plus the name of the quest (Harold's life was prolonged to a minimum of 205 due to the mutation). The two images on Strange Sapling helped this conclusion. Silence is GoldenBreak the Silence 14:18, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
- Merethin's spirit and likeness merged into the tree are very similar for sure. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 23:18, 25 February 2020 (GMT)
Fawlty Towers
During one of the End Quests (Cant Remember if its "The Hollow City" or "The Weight of Three crowns" -Cadwell can be heard to say "I hope you are giving him a damn good thrashing" - which is a line from an episode of Fawlty Towers - "Gourment Night". — Unsigned comment by 81.158.237.203 (talk) at 19:19 on 23 June 2017
- Cadwell is voiced by John Cleese so this seems like an obvious one to me. —Legoless (talk) 19:25, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
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- The original quote, where Basil Fawlty does not agree with his car and scolds it. —MortenOSlash (talk) 07:36, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
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Tasmanian Tiger
- The Isle of Gorne off the east coast of Morrowind is home to many strange creatures found nowhere else in Tamriel. One of these is the giant Striped Wolf, packs of which terrorized the island's settlers till they were suppressed in the Troubled House Hunt.
The Gorne Striped Wolf seems to be based on the real world Tasmanian tiger, a striped marsupial once widespread across Australia. Like Australia, Gorne is described as having "strange creatures found nowhere else". —Legoless (talk) 13:59, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
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- Looks just like it too, being native to an island off the coast of a province with a deadly reputation also helps. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 23:18, 25 February 2020 (GMT)
Troll bridge
If you head southwest from Fort Warden in cyrodiil and follow the edge of the mountains towards Fort Rayles, you come across a path crossing over two arched bridges, one of which shelters a frost troll. Looks like another repeated reference. Should this be included as an egg, or would it be a reference to earlier Easter eggs? --Xyzzy Talk 06:28, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
- Is this in reference to the "brijj troll" in Oblivion? That would be better off on the Elder Scrolls Historical References page. —Legoless (talk) 13:35, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
- I don't know that I'd call it a reference to Oblivion, since Skyrim also has an easter egg entry for Three Billy Goats Gruff, although this time the troll is alive. If we list it in both games we should also list it as an egg here, or call the trolls in Skyrim and ESO historical references to the Oblivion egg. I've never been clear where this dividing line exists or should exist. --Xyzzy Talk 03:37, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
Musical Runestone
I've twice run across a runestone harvest node in Morrowind that appears to play music, the same as a bard. Both times have been in the same location, approximately 2/3 the way from Vivec City to Shipwreck Cove, in the center of the small island east of Bal Fell. As soon as I harvest the node, the music stops. I have no idea if it's a bug, a simple easter egg, or if it's supposed to reference something, but figured I'd document it here and see what comes of it. --Xyzzy Talk 03:24, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
- Been I while since I did Bal Fell but I believe its related to the quest there, and the music may have been made by the Nord madman controlling the spiders there, can't fully remember. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 23:18, 25 February 2020 (GMT)
Running of the Bulls
- The Housing description of House of the Silent Magnifico makes reference to the "running of the Dunerippers", a dangerous pasttime similar to the Running of the Bulls that occurs each year in Spain. ---- Timeoin
Moving this here from the page so it can be discussed before entry. Silence is GoldenBreak the Silence 18:37, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
- Very similar names, and dunerippers have a very similar temper and speed as bulls, I can see it being a reference. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 23:18, 25 February 2020 (GMT)
Landfall and Zero Summing
- "Assessing threats to Master Sil. Dreaming ... open window. Sunlight through glass.
- "Threat analysis prepared. Prospect Numidium: negative. Prospect Almalexia: negative. Prospect Erasure: negative. No existential threat detected."
The above quote is from an artificial intelligence NPC called Aios in the upcoming Clockwork City DLC. It refers to Sotha Sil's eventual death at the hands of Almalexia in Tribunal, but also mentions Numidium and "Erasure" as other potential existential threats. These seem like clear references to the works of Michael Kirkbride.
In C0DA, Numidium's return results in an apocalyptic event called Landfall which destroys Nirn. "Erasure" likely refers to the concept of zero summing, a state of enlightenment similar to CHIM which results in the individual ceasing to exist (source: et'Ada, Eight Aedra, Eat the Dreamer).
This wouldn't be the first time ESO refers to one of MK's personal works, per the KINMUNE Easter egg currently listed on the article. —Legoless (talk) 14:24, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
- Not only agree with this addition, but I think it's time the C0DA reference from Sermon 37 should be added. Bryn (talk) 14:29, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
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Clockwork City Precursor - Star Wars
At the end of the Oscillating Son, after the post-quest cutscene, if you talk to the Precursor again he says something along the lines of, "Such rudeness in this new day and age! I'm quite beside myself." This, I think, is a reference to the Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones where R2D2 is dragging one part of C-3PO by another and he says, "I'm quite beside myself," especially considering it was said by a factotum. MaormerMagus (talk) 20:19, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
- There's definitely a lot of similarities between the Precursor and C3P-O in backstory too, as the Precursor was a discarded robot built by someone who went on to become the powerful ruler of the land. This line is further credence as it pays homage by directly quoting C3P-O. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 18:37, 30 January 2020 (GMT)
Umbrage Two - Simpsons?
Might be a tenuous one, but the default nickname of the Black Senche-Lion (page) is "Umbrage Two". This may be a reference to the Simpsons' black cat, named "Snowball Two". Both are black cats named "<blank> Two", and named after another cat. (In the case of the Simpsons, "Snowball One" was a white cat, so it's a little joke because "Snowball" is obviously an odd name for a black cat.) — TheRealLurlock (talk) 20:54, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
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- Black-furred felines with a very odd "two" in the name is way too similar to not be a reference. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 23:18, 25 February 2020 (GMT)
Skeleton stuck to column of ice
I don't know if this is referencing anything, but I thought I would be worth mentioning in case anyone else thinks it could be. In Snapleg Cave in The Rift, there is a small campsite with a skeleton stuck to a column of ice next to it, and judging by the way it is positioned, it appears to be someone who got stuck there by licking the ice. It is in the SW corner of the room with the delve's boss in it. AshenArtifice (talk) 12:14, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
- I'd say it simply references the common act of licking frozen street light poles and other objects, which can cause your tongue to become stuck on them. I don't think it counts as an easter egg of any kind. Aran Anumarile Autaracu Alatasel (talk) 15:16, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
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Opulence
Zanil Theran, the Luxury Furnisher, has among his greeting quotes the following line:
- Opulence. I have it. You can too. For the right price.
This is likely a reference to a frequently run commercial for DirecTV, seen here, featuring a Russian oligarch speaking almost the same line. He even looks a little bit like Zanil; both are wearing a brown open (vest/jacket) over a yellow shirt. Compare this with this. — TheRealLurlock (talk) 14:02, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
- Reads just like an advertisement, agreed, probably is an intentional reference. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 23:18, 25 February 2020 (GMT)
The Fugitive
Does anyone else think Jorckleif's line about a tailless Argonian is a reference to The Fugitive and its one-armed man? --Debatra (talk) 06:11, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
- Him being in a similar scenario and mentioning it twice feels very much like a reference, it's also been listed on that page for some time now. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 23:18, 25 February 2020 (GMT)
Player Housing
"I've had tenants cram their rooms with the wildest things. Mounts, foliage, assistants - I mean, it's an inn room!"
This is a quote from Felande Demarie, the NPC who gives you a free player house. It's a clear reference to the multitude of strange things you can do with furnishings in the player housing system, making it a game mechanics reference. —Legoless (talk) 14:51, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- Seems pretty obvious for me. --Vordur Steel-Hammer (TINV1K) 17:00, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
Fawlty Towers reference
During the assault on the Great Shackle in Coldhabour, Cadwell exclaims the Shackle and its defenders are going to receive "a damn good thrashing". Cadwell is of course voiced by John Cleese and these are the same words Cleese famously speaks in Fawlty Towers when his car breaks down. — Unsigned comment by 80.189.77.162 (talk) at 13:02 on 3 June 2018
- Given the agreement above in the #Fawlty Towers section, I think we can ignore the talk page first rule and let it stay. Silence is GoldenBreak the Silence 13:51, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
The Simpsons - Ralph Wiggum
Overheard in Mournhold from Talsyne Indoril, an NPC of no consequence near the Pact Navigators in the west of the city - "My cat's breath smells like cat food". This is of course a famous Ralph Wiggum line from the Simpsons episode 'Lisa's Rival'. — Unsigned comment by 80.189.77.247 (talk) at 18:22 on 21 June 2018 UTC
- Given that is one of Ralph's more famous lines, if that’s the exact quote from the NPC then it seems it could be a solid reference. Echo (talk) 18:35, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
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Rorschach_test
At Southpoint Inn, there is a hide on the wall that looks look a Roschach ink blot test. Timeoin (talk) 01:31, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
- Pics or it didn't happen. -- SarthesArai Talk 15:17, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
Edwina
It's not strong enough on its own to merit Easter Egg status, but it's possible that Edwina is an homage to Edwin/Edwina in the Baldur's Gate series of games. The only things that support that that I can see are the unusual name and the fact that Edwin/Edwina's colours in those games are red and yellow, as they are in ESO. I don't play ESO, though, so I thought I'd mention it as a possibility in case there actually are other references in the game itself that would make a more solid connection. If not, then it's nothing more than an interesting possibility. :) – Robin Hood (talk) 02:09, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
- Other than "Hrogar's Hold" and "Baldur's Gate" being similar names, I don't see many connections with this character and the Baldur's Gate franchise. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 23:18, 25 February 2020 (GMT)
Bugs Bunny
I'm surprised I never made the connection before, but the recipe Fricasseed Rabbit With Radishes seems like a reference to a Bugs Bunny episode about a "Fricasseeing rabbit" YouTube clip (skip to 3:10 for the relevant exchange). Fricassee rabbit appears to be unusual enough in real life to make this reference likely. --Xyzzy Talk 03:08, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
- Yup. Out of all the things to combine an obscure thing like Fricasseed with, rabbit is no doubt a reference to the famous sketch. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 23:18, 25 February 2020 (GMT)
Cernunnos
I believe that Cernunnon (Boss from Falkreath Dungeon) is basically a reference to Cernunnos], a name for the so-called Horned God of Celtic mythology. Just the name though, not sure if anything else would match up but the Reachmen do seem to have some Celtic influences (Looking through the lens of Roman records though.). — Unsigned comment by Talyyn (talk • contribs) at 15:09 on 14 October 2018 (UTC)
- I definitely see that as being the basis. Playing Falkreath Hold there's an awful lot of Celtic-inspired things the Reachmen do. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 18:37, 30 January 2020 (GMT)
Warrior's Heart Ashes (dark soul reference?
the style material icon for the dremora motif found here https://en.uesp.net/wiki/File:ON-icon-style_material-Warrior%27s_Heart_Ashes.png might be a reference to dark soul bonfires and a reference to various warrior souls in the game. might be a sutle reference or an easter egg but not to sure which it would be.Zebendal (talk) 21:46, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
- I looked online at the Dark Souls bonfire images and, while there is a similarity, it could be coincidental. I'd need more evidence of a connection before supporting this. --Xyzzy Talk 01:59, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
- The bonfire is a huge symbolical icon of Dark Souls. Besides it makes little sense to have a sword driven through an ash pile. Can't think of many legitimate reasons to design it exactly like this if it wasnt meant to be a reference. Adding the name, well, to me this whole crafting material is a reference. Tib (talk) 07:37, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
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The Roswell Tv series
The contraband/treasure called "Indecipherable Metallic Book" could be a reference to the TV show "Roswell", Staring Katherine Heigl & Jason Behr, Which had a metallic alien book with strange glyphs or runes written on metal pages that was indecipherable until the main characters got special stones that could translate it. — Unsigned comment by 101.189.111.159 (talk) at 23:47 on 29 October 2018 (UTC)
- Might be, we could use some more context from the show however to deem whether its intentional. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 23:18, 25 February 2020 (GMT)
Factotum walks like the original morrowind walk
Not sure if im imagining this, but the way factotums walk highly resemble the walk from the original morrowind. can this be a nod? Zebendal (talk) 02:07, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
- I don't see it. The factotums have a slow, deliberate, jerky stride, while TES3 characters have exaggerated but smooth arm and leg swings. --Xyzzy Talk 06:30, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
Riverwood White Hen
The Riverwood Chicken references the meme of riverwood wanting to kill you if you kill a chicken "Owners become attached to them, and become outraged if they are harmed." Zebendal (talk) 18:36, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
- 100% a reference (same joke appears in Legends) but would this go on "Elder Scrolls Historical References" instead? The Rim of the Sky (talk) 18:37, 30 January 2020 (GMT)
Game mechanics reference
The new brimstone nixad refrences the fact that torches are responsible for torches being lit in abandoned places.Zebendal (talk) 00:46, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, in eso and many previous tes games there's a lot of comments on why lights are always on, food is unspoiled, and currency is up-to-date in ruins that have been sealed for centuries. This description explains why torches are always lit. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 23:18, 25 February 2020 (GMT)
Saltbae Meme Reference
The newest emote salty, linked below, is a reference to the popular meme, Saltbae. I believe it should be considered an easter egg. File:ON-emote-Salty.jpg Zebendal (talk) 17:58, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
- Unquestionably. Please remember to abide by the rules though—talk page first. Silence is GoldenBreak the Silence 19:21, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
Calf-Skin Baby Shoes
This contraband item (Calf-Skin Baby Shoes) is a reference to one of the famous "Shortest Short Stories", which was For sale: baby shoes, never worn for sale: baby shoes, never worn]. Often attributed to Hemingway, it likely wasn't written by him. Jeancey (talk) 18:06, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
- Yep, unquestionably a reference! Vyraesi (talk) 21:22, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
- A simple description but definitely a reference with its wording The Rim of the Sky (talk) 21:27, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
Finger bone of Saint Felms
This may be a reference to a Blackadder episode where Edmund Blackadder and his two friends attempt to sell fake finger bones of Christ to gullible religious folk to earn a quick buck. Whilst the story in of itself is insginificant to the in-game item, I think the religious skeletal artifact from ESO may be a light nod to the show. --Rezalon (talk) 07:59, 10 October 2019 (GMT)
- I don't think this is the case. The Catholic Church has a long history of having body parts of saints displayed as relics in notable locations. There is even a section regarding Counterfeits of such relics on Wikipedia. I also think this is not limited to Christianity. I doubt this is a reference to a specific episode of this show. Jeancey (talk) 15:53, 10 October 2019 (GMT)
- Yeah the "[body part] of a [saint]" trope is pretty common, I don't see this being a Blackadder reference in particular. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 23:18, 25 February 2020 (GMT)
Donkey Kong
A Donkey Kong easter egg can be found within the lambent passage right before entering the vile drainage in the Imperial City sewers.Zebendal (talk) 22:21, 5 December 2019 (GMT)
- This is certainly a reference and has since been added to the page The Rim of the Sky (talk) 18:37, 30 January 2020 (GMT)
Justin, Scott, and Speigel
This was added as a note to a couple of pages, but was never listed here (plus, easter eggs aren't usually listed in the notes on pages, since we don't show trivia.)
Justino, along with his two companions, Sott and Spagel, also Pumpernickle are based off the hosts Justin, Scott, and Speigel on the local Baltimore, Maryland station 98 Rock, near the headquarters of Bethesda Softworks. Matt Firor worked with the station to implement their voices into the game as an Easter egg. Video Game Voice Acting ― 98 Rock Baltimore
Seems pretty clear, I'd support adding it to this page. Jeancey (talk) 17:11, 30 January 2020 (GMT)
- 100% based off them. I didn't discuss this prior because unlike other most eggs here, we have a direct source to confirm it. Even though we don't "typically" add eggs to the notes it is relevant that we add them to these characters since they have unique voice actors. TES Wiki has also had all this information listed for about 5 years now. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 18:37, 30 January 2020 (GMT)
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Titanic
This scene depicting two orc skeletons and a boat is found west of bright-throat village, where it is closeby. it is a reference to the movie titanic towards the end where Leonardo DiCaprio (Jack) and the main female character (Rose) are in the ocean after the sinking of the ship.Zebendal (talk) 05:33, 24 February 2020 (GMT)
- This seems very likely to be a reference, given that they're in a body of water with one on a raft and the other floating in the water, holding hands, almost identical to the film and this iconic scene's many imitations. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 06:30, 24 February 2020 (GMT)
- Looks about right, I'd say it's a reference. -MolagBallet (talk) 06:02, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Borderlands - Crimson Raiders
The hired pirates in Crimson Cove are called the Crimson Raiders, similar to the group of the same name from Borderlands 2. It seems to probably be a reference since Borderlands 2 had its fair share of references to skyrim and no doubt the devs would probably want to repay the favor, and the name for the eso faction could've been "Crimson Pirates" or "Crimson sails" but they went with the name matching Borderlands instead. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 07:04, 24 February 2020 (GMT)
- I find this unlikely, since this faction was in the beta that started March 2013, and Borderlands 2 came out in September 2012. That's a remarkably short time to add a reference of this size (there's a large amount of notes and quests and references to them in the base game area). They'd also have to have identified the Skyrim references post release and then decide to add a reference to ESO's base game. I think it's more likely to be a coincidence... Jeancey (talk) 17:41, 24 February 2020 (GMT)
- I mean if it's a development gap of six months that makes this unlikely, Zos has certainly made a lot of changes within smaller time gaps on numerous occasions. Alpha builds for summerset played at conventions in April 2018 had maormer enemies as Sea Vipers rather than the Storm Sharks, which were changed by the time it was on the pts and in early access. Time gap aside I don't see why this can't be a reference. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 21:39, 24 February 2020 (GMT)
- It's definitely not impossible for it to be a reference, but it seems like an awfully large change to make late in development. Reusing existing assets in the alpha build makes more sense in the new stuff isn't done yet, but changing that name also requires changes in all other languages and possibly re-recording dialogue (there are a half dozen or so voiced lines mentioning them by name). It just seems like way too much effort in a short period of time to put a reference in, especially given what else they had to focus on during that stage of development. Crimson Raider is somewhat generic enough of a name that it seems most likely to be a coincidence to me. Now if any of the named raiders were similar in name to the named raiders in Borderlands 2, or if there are other connections (similarity in dialogue, or something of that sort), then that would be a stronger case. I never played Borderlands 2 so i can't really say, one way or another on that point, however. Jeancey (talk) 21:44, 24 February 2020 (GMT)
- Yeah that's fair, I haven't looked too closely at the names to find further connections. I guess the only definite way to know then would be to ask Zenimax or decipher the Coded Rutter. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 02:09, 25 February 2020 (GMT)
- It's definitely not impossible for it to be a reference, but it seems like an awfully large change to make late in development. Reusing existing assets in the alpha build makes more sense in the new stuff isn't done yet, but changing that name also requires changes in all other languages and possibly re-recording dialogue (there are a half dozen or so voiced lines mentioning them by name). It just seems like way too much effort in a short period of time to put a reference in, especially given what else they had to focus on during that stage of development. Crimson Raider is somewhat generic enough of a name that it seems most likely to be a coincidence to me. Now if any of the named raiders were similar in name to the named raiders in Borderlands 2, or if there are other connections (similarity in dialogue, or something of that sort), then that would be a stronger case. I never played Borderlands 2 so i can't really say, one way or another on that point, however. Jeancey (talk) 21:44, 24 February 2020 (GMT)
- I mean if it's a development gap of six months that makes this unlikely, Zos has certainly made a lot of changes within smaller time gaps on numerous occasions. Alpha builds for summerset played at conventions in April 2018 had maormer enemies as Sea Vipers rather than the Storm Sharks, which were changed by the time it was on the pts and in early access. Time gap aside I don't see why this can't be a reference. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 21:39, 24 February 2020 (GMT)
Memetic Skyrim Player Character
In Khunzar-ri and the Demon: Part One it opens with one of Khunzar-ri's exploits "After Khunzar-ri defeated the giant Drol by consuming four-hundred-and-one moon-sugar pies, he met a demon." this reminded me of Skyrim where you could eat food mid battle to heal up, when parodied is typically a large amount of cheese wheels. — Unsigned comment by Talyyn (talk • contribs) at 12:33 on 24 February 2020
- That would be more of appropriate for Elder Scrolls Historical References, no? Jeancey (talk) 17:30, 24 February 2020 (GMT)
- I support this being a reference but yea, should be suggested on the other page instead. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 20:56, 24 February 2020 (GMT)
Revenge of the Sith
In Ramimilk there is a charred corpse still on fire (pictured) in a position where it looks to be crawling out of the lava. This looks an awful lot like the scene at the end of Star Wars: Episode III – Revenge of the Sith where (Spoilers!) where Anakin tries to crawl away from the lava on Mustafar after losing his limbs in a duel with Obi-Wan, only to catch on fire and be burnt alive. I've seen this posted dozens of times online where people also believe it to be a reference, too. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 23:02, 3 March 2020 (GMT)
- Ive suggested this on the discord before but I never got to suggesting it here. I agree that it has to be a reference.Zebendal (talk) 03:54, 4 March 2020 (GMT)
Star Wars: Attack of the Clones - moved from page
A quest is named Aggressive Negotiations, which is a reference to Padme Amidala's quip about "aggressive negotiations" during the Battle of Geonosis.
post by IP moved from content page to discuss -- SarthesArai Talk 18:39, 18 April 2020 (GMT)
- Unless the content of the quest is very similar to the noted section of the film, it is probably not related. --Enodoc (talk) 15:35, 19 April 2020 (GMT)
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- It seems like a reference to me, it's a popular enough quip from that movie and has a tvtropes page. —Legoless (talk) 01:48, 20 April 2020 (GMT)
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- Yes, definitely a reference, the phrase originated from the movie to my knowledge and always linked to star wars. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 19:27, 18 May 2020 (GMT)
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Stranger Things
The Gorge featured during the quest The Taste of Fear is a reference to the Upside Down from Stranger Things. It has the fleshy growths and the The Insatiable is a reference to the Demogorgon.Zebendal (talk) 18:06, 30 April 2020 (GMT)
- This is an obvious one, surprised it hasn't been added yet. —Legoless (talk) 23:48, 30 April 2020 (GMT)
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- Agreed, a very well-done reference to the show. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 19:27, 18 May 2020 (GMT)
Baby Shoes, Never Worn
The contraband item Calf-Skin Baby Shoes has the description "A pair of baby shoes, never worn." This seems to be a reference to the well-known six-word-story "For sale: baby shoes, never worn", which is commonly attributed to Ernest Hemingway. ~ Alarra (talk • contribs) 00:31, 15 May 2020 (GMT)
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- This was already proposed and heavily supported, it should've been on the page by now but it appears we forgot to add it haha. I've gone ahead and put it on there, but if somebody wants to change the name of the section it's up to them. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 19:27, 18 May 2020 (GMT)
You're Finally Awake
The new Greymoor intro shows the you're finally awake meme from Tes V intro. Please add this asap since its obviously a reference.Zebendal (talk) 12:09, 26 May 2020 (UTC) image
- Is this better suited for Online:Elder Scrolls Historical References? The Rim of the Sky (talk) 18:41, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
First Church of the Holy Sweetroll
Thogalda the priestess located inside The Lonely Troll tavern in Solitude is a reference to "The First Church of the Holy Sweetroll" which is a cult following founded at PAX AUS 2016.
While waiting in the queue hall the first 1,000 attendees were given an edible Sweetroll which came in boxes designed like the Skyrim inventory menu, over the Three days of PAX members built Armour, Weapons and a tower from these boxes.
The members of this group have returned each Pax Aus and partners with the Bethesda community team in 2019 to hand out the limited edition Sweetroll PAX pin while "Praising the glaze" and worshipping the Founder His Rolliness, The Pastryarch. — Unsigned comment by 120.159.171.16 (talk) at 06:48 on 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- I see a PAX Aus 2018 Sweet Roll Pin listing on eBay and this article goes into detail regarding the First Church of the Holy Sweetroll in 2016. Seems like an Easter egg to me. —Legoless (talk) 13:48, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
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- Hopefully we can dig up more info on the cult pre-2020, would like to document more of its origins. But it does seem to be a reference The Rim of the Sky (talk) 22:11, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
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- Update: Found one of Leamon saying in September 2019 "Someone just introduced me to the First Church of the Holy Sweet Roll. I'm not a convert yet, but they've definitely given me a lot to think about."
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- Guess that helps confirm it. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 07:20, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
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Sleeps-at-Fires
The argonian Sleep-at-Fires who appears in Greymoor might be a reference to the argonian player character "Sleeps-on-Bridges" who was a sensation last year. Would log in just sleep on a random bridge. The official TESO twitter gave him a shoutout and PCGamer had an article written about them. Both times Sleeps-at-Fires is in game, she can be found sleeping by a fire. I suppose someone could ask if it is a shoutout to confirm, but I think the npc is.--Talyyn (talk) 13:45, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- Not sure about this one, the name is similar but does this NPC actually do any sleeping? —Legoless (talk) 13:49, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
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- Yup, seems like a reference The Rim of the Sky (talk) 22:11, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
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- Seems reasonable enough to me. -MolagBallet (talk) 05:39, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
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BioShock Infinite
In his furnishing dialogue Online:Augur of the Obscure may say: "Be honest—do you ever wish we hadn't broken the Staff of Towers? Just imagine a world of non-linear time! Wait, is your nose bleeding? All right, stop imagining a world of non-linear time." In BioShock Infinite, nosebleeds are a symptom that occurs when one person’s memories from different parallel universes / timelines merge. Light-Born (talk) 07:17, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
- People getting a nosebleed due to mental strain is a trope used a lot, but not often when it comes to comprehending alternate realities, so maybe. I don't really know enough about BioShock to say one way or the other though. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 22:11, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
Star Trek
Could the Logic Fob treasure be referencing the IDIC symbol from Star Trek? It represents the logic-obsessed Vulcan philosophy and its in-game presence as a fob kind of parallels the fact that it was originally created as a mail-order trinket for ST fans. --Spellkeister (talk) 11:57, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
Craig Sechler
I noticed it quite a while ago but Sir Craig Lescher has a very similar name to Craig Sechler, a voice actor for skyrim and many npcs in Oblivion. This leads me to believe it could be a nod to his work by naming an npc after him. There's not much to do with the npc, but he is the only character in the series named Craig or with the last name Lescher (an anagram of Sechler), I find it to be way too unlikely to dismiss as a coincidence. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 17:34, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- Seems like a coincidence unless we have anything to back that up. Sechler voiced elves and ghosts in those games, I struggle to see the connection to a generic bearded Breton man in Morrowind. —Legoless (talk) 01:44, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
Deca Dezno and Resting Semaj IRL ref
Two NPCs are a reference to real people. Please refer to their notes here Decca Dezno and Resting Semaj.Zebendal (talk) 03:29, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
- These are officially confirmed so I'll go ahead and add them. —Legoless (talk) 11:19, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
Odd scripted behavior of mobs as EEs?
While wandering around Western Skyrim I noticed 2 locations with common zone mobs that seem to have unusual scripted behavior. One location has 2 bears standing at the top of a waterfall, as if they were waiting to catch fish jumping up the waterfall, and the second has a bear and a troll standing at opposite sides of a pond growling at/threatening each other, much further apart than is normal to trigger mob aggro. They are definitely not behaving as other mobs in the zone, even though they seem to be normal in every other respect. My question is, are these worth documenting in some way, since they are out of the ordinary? --Xyzzy Talk 22:39, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Don't think so, it's just a bit of mob flavour. There are countless examples of similar scenarios, such as trolls and giants fighting in Mzark Caverns or a mammoth and bristleback facing off in Western Skyrim. I think the correct place to mention any such occurrences would be the relevant place page. —Legoless (talk) 11:18, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
Dr Suess One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish
The book One Dragon Two Dragon is an obvious reference to Dr Seuss One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish. Lawrence Schick does a reading of it here https://twitter.com/TESOnline/status/1112734230059106305 with an even more obvious cover reference to it. just compare it to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLpZE32QG5g and you will see the obvious reference.Zebendal (talk) 09:29, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- Yes -Dcsg (talk) 10:11, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- Should we also make mention of other references made in the same vein (specifically, the other Dr Seuss reference) posted on ESO's Twitter, or should we try to keep things trimmed to references seen in-game? I'm opposed to including every meme posted to ESO Twitter on this page, but I'm curious if the one example is acceptable. -MolagBallet (talk) 22:30, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
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- I added this to the page due to it being in-game. I would be opposed to social media posts being included here as by definition they are not Easter eggs. Not sure where that content should go to be honest; another example would be File:ON-map-Japan.jpg. —Legoless (talk) 22:42, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
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Norse Mythology
Hircine's Wolf aspect, Storihbeg the Skinchanger, is said to want to devour both the moons and suns (during the New Life Festival), this characteristic is shared with the Norse wolf Sköll, who wants to eat the sun, and Hati Hróðvitnisson, who wants to eat the moon. Furthermore, the melding of the two wolves into one is also present in actual Norse Mythology itself, as stated in the theory section Fenrir's wikipedia page, where Skoll and Hati are believed to have simply originally have been their father Fenrir.
In Reachmen myths, New Life marks the start of the winter solstice, where Magnus the Sun begins his return, and thus when days start to grow longer. Due to this, Storihbeg the Man-Beast pursues the sun in an attempt to eat it, all in an effort to keep the nights longer. The book From Old Life To New notes that there are several interpretations of this per race, and in the Nordic interpretation of the Wolf That Craved the Sky, the Skinchanger's goal is ultimately to eat the Sun, so that he could then eat the moons in peace. Storihbeg also plans to also eat the stars, sharing similarities to Fenrir's wikipedia page, "after Fenrir's son Sköll has swallowed the sun and his other son Hati Hróðvitnisson has swallowed the moon, the stars will disappear from the sky." The order the Skinchanger planned to eat the things are first, the Moons, the the Sun, then the stars.
Additionally, afterwards, "Fenrisúlfr will go forth with his mouth opened wide, his upper jaw touching the sky and his lower jaw the earth, and flames will burn from his eyes and nostrils." the line from New Life to Old Life "And when I have gorged myself on the sky, when there is nothing left but darkness, I will stand astride the world and howl!" Astride means extending across, which fits the line of Fenrisulfr extending his jaw from the sky to the earth. The Skinshifter is also stated as having burning eyes, which Fenrisulfr has. I am sure there is other references.Zebendal (talk) 05:19, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
- The Nords are broadly based on the Norse, just as the Imperials are broadly based on the Romans, and the Redguards are broadly based on Arabic culture. We generally don't list specific commonalities between the two since there are just so many different ones. I'm not doubting the connection, but it may be more of a general cultural connection rather than "let's add this specific story and nothing else" if that makes sense... Jeancey (talk) 18:35, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
COVID-19
An obvious one, but Wash Your Damn Hands is a reference to covid. —Legoless (talk) 21:15, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
- It sure is 😔 The Rim of the Sky (talk) 21:57, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
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