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• Subpages (And why we need them)
• Why Put Quests Under Quests Article?

I agree with Endareth and now strongly feel quest pages should be Oblivion:Quest:<name> and NPCs should be Oblivion:People:<name> and places should be Oblivion:Place:<name> and so on. Having everything on the same level causes confusion. I know this issue has been resolved once (March '06) but I am reopening it for further discussion. --FMan | Talk | contribs 16:47, 17 January 2007 (EST)

I'd be interested in finding out how you think a different naming system will reduce confusion. And in particular, what a new naming system can do that the category system is unable to do. I doubt that anyone ever looks through the list of all Oblivion pages to try to find a list of Oblivion places, which is the only case that comes to mind for me where having a different naming system would make it easier to identify the purpose of a page.

If anyone wants a list of all quests, people, or places, the categories are set up to provide that, at Category:Oblivion-Quests, Category:Oblivion-NPCs, or Category:Oblivion-Places, respectively. And if you pull up any categorized page, the category link at the bottom of the page immediately tells you the purpose of the page. And the category system provides power and flexibility that would not be available with a page naming system. In particular, a page can belong to multiple categories when appropriate. So, for example, each of those categories I listed also has subcategories. So you can pull up a list just of Dunmer NPCs or forts.

Therefore, I'd like to have a better sense of what about the existing system causes confusion. I'm wondering whether there might be an easier way to address the problem than renaming some 1000 wiki pages. --Nephele 17:55, 17 January 2007 (EST)

The answer is simple: when I look at an edit in the Recent Changes list, I have no idea whether a certain page is about a quest, a place or what. There would be zero confusion if it was clearly visible in the full name of the page. I know this is a small problem and possibly affects only me personally and it would require lots of work to implement a change of this scale and it wouldn't do that much good in whole so I didn't really expect anyone to support me on this, but I just wanted to make this point. --FMan | Talk | contribs 11:09, 18 January 2007 (EST)

I think this issue is always going to polarise people based upon what they use the wiki for. Personally I don't like the way it's subdivided by games, but would be happy if things were subdivided by object type. (That is to say, if I type in Dremora, I want to see a page telling me about Dremora's in all games, I might think to type Creature:Dremora or even Race:Dremora I am would never have thought to type Oblivion:Dremora though.) Jadrax 11:27, 18 January 2007 (EST)

And when I'm typing in Cross Links, it is MUCH easier not to have to add a subspace in there. Not only would bringing those things mean a lot of work currently, it would be more work in the future. Oh, and Jadrax, that's what the Tamriel space is for, though I will admit that at the moment, it is lacking. --Ratwar 11:31, 18 January 2007 (EST)