Skyrim talk:Skybound Watch Pass

Multiple Places - Same Locale

How best to handle these three pages: Skyrim:Skybound Watch Pass | Skyrim:North Skybound Watch | Skyrim:South Skybound Watch?--Bwross 09:53, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

I think this is one of the cases where it is probably worth to keep three pages, since both North and South Skybound Watch have actual content and are distinct enough to warrant a separate article. This is in contrast to cases like Skyrim:Brittleshin Pass where both mapmarker articles are empty and can be replaced with redirects to the dungeon page. I'm not sure it will be easy to give a general recipe for those cases though. And once we have separate console location codes for mapmarkers (if they exist) or just any map location data we have to find a way to put information for both exits into the dungeon page if we merged the articles. --Alfwyn 15:01, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm changing them to redirects because otherwise I've been tripped up by these pages too many times. In particular, right now I don't know how else to handle the fact that you can only clear this location once -- not three separate times -- and therefore only one of the three pages should be shown in the clearable locations category. Furthermore, as three separate pages, all three contained descriptions of the interior, and I have no idea whether other items described on the pages (such as the chest(s?) are the same items mentioned multiple times, or whether there are really are multiple copies of the items. --Nephele^Talk 01:47, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Dubious location

The in-game map does not show political boundaries. So determining borders while playing is difficult without a fence i.e. some physical marker. Interestingly, the map with the game and the one in the Prima game guide place both entrances within Falkreath being 8.33 and 8.34. So I have changed the location description. Kalevala (talk) 20:44, 28 August 2014 (GMT)

The location of the zone isn't based on map guess work, but rather from the game data. However, the descriptions of the locations are based on the easiest method of getting to each entrance. You must go through Whiterun Hold in order to get to the northern entrance, thus people may think it is in Whiterun Hold. The sentence makes it clear that it is in Falkreath. Jeancey (talk) 21:26, 28 August 2014 (GMT)

The game data places both entrances within Falkreath, that is an undeniable fact upon which we both agree. I can not count the instances in which a location is given in the form of "X is in the Y <direction> from Z" without regard to the relative ease of getting to X from Z, so travel ease has not been a criteria for locating things. Nonetheless, "The northern entrance is to the south east of Riverwood, and the southern entrance is to the south of Riverwood" is likewise undeniably true and since Riverwood is within Whiterun Hold the sentence offers the player the easiest route as well, thus meeting both your points. However, the entrances do not "straddle" the border between the holds. From a hypothetical player's perspective which hold we may believe that he "may think" he occupies, is speculation. In any case it is immaterial to the accuracy of the page. So I've edited the page. Kalevala (talk) 20:44, 31 August 2014 (GMT)