Bloodmoon talk:Easter Eggs

Lassie

Found a little reference to Lassie in the Tymvaul quest. Added it at the bottom of the page; edit if you think it's unneeded or improperly worded. Burunduk 14:34, 17 October 2006 (EDT)

Beowulf?

I'm quite surprised no one added the similarities in the Mead Hall Massacre and the original depiction of Grendel's slaughter at Heorot, the meadhall belonging to Hrothgar, the Danish King. Finally, Beowulf arises and defeats the beast, and its mother. Well, I see similarities, anyway...--Sstasino 00:34, 2 December 2006 (EST)

Please go ahead and add this! --DrPhoton 04:36, 23 March 2007 (EDT)

Thieves from Tamriel

I don't know if anyone noticed, but the first easter egg is about "Thieves from Tamriel". Isn't Solstheim part of Tamriel? I mean it's on the map of Tamriel, and I always assumed it was. But I don't want to change it because no one else has, and I'm not sure of the author's intention... Flypanam 19:51, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

Well, Tamriel here means other parts of Tamriel ;) --DrPhoton 04:34, 23 March 2007 (EDT)

The Dark Brotherhood reference should be removed. Different names... similar and close, sure, but not the same names at all. 69.64.10.249 10:42, 28 March 2007 (EDT)

Looking at it again, I'm inclined to agree. The Lucian note references a heist and "the Guild" - implying that he's probably in the Thieves Guild, not the Dark Brotherhood. (The Brotherhood kills people, they don't steal stuff. And they're never referred to as "the Guild".) Also, there's nothing at all to connect these two to the Dark Brotherhood other than almost their names. There's no museum robbery referenced in Cyrodiil - there isn't even a museum anywhere in the game of Oblivion, except in Shivering Isles, which of course is not in Cyrodiil. And even if there were, the Dark Brotherhood would have no interest in it, because that's not what they do. Additionally, the fact that Antoinette is headed back to Summerset Isle means that she'd be unlikely to be found back in Cyrodiil. The details just don't match up. It's a random coincidence that the names come up close, but without more corroborating evidence, I'm thinking that there's no reason to believe this was an intentional reference. --TheRealLurlock ^Talk 01:19, 1 October 2007 (EDT)

i dont think this is evidence but..its somethin ok look at this in oblivion Lucien is spelled with an "E" and antoinetta is spelled with an "A" so in blood moon there names traded letters so lucian became lucien and atoinette became antoinetta with the trading of "A" and "E" its not much but its something-LuciusZelgius 22:35, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Take note that this is before oblivion so there may be a chance that all this happened before Lucian and Antoinette even arrived to Cyrodiil or before they even joined the dark brotherhood.It may have also been Betheseda trying to make a reference to the upcoming game oblivion but they decided to switch the letters. — Unsigned comment by ChrisRodriguez (talk • contribs) at 06:30 on 11 September 2009 (UTC)

(←) I've removed this from the page. It seems like a total coincidence that these two notes mention Lucian, Antoinetta, and a Cyrodilic inn; there is nothing concrete to connect this to Oblivion's Dark Brotherhood questline. —⁠Legoless (talk) 13:55, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Oddfrid White-lip and Eno Romari

Anonymous user 62.140.134.14 asked "Doesn't Eno Romari of the "End of Times"-cult in Mournhold (Tribunal) say something similar?" with regard to the prophecy uttered by Oddfrid White-Lip. --Gaebrial 06:48, 5 September 2007 (EDT)

Here's some of Eno's quotes:

Our beliefs are very simple, dear friend. The blessed Tribunal, though once filled with glory, are no longer the gods they once were. As with the tides and Tamriel's moons, all cosmic powers will wax and wane. But, when gods die, it creates ripples throughout the lands. The passing of the Three will be a prelude to the end of this era, and the beginning of the next. The followers of the End of Times are making ourselves ready for this to happen.

We realize that the end of the era will bring many changes. We believe that the gates of Oblivion will open, and the multitude of daedra will roam this world freely. Some might tell you that this is a good thing, that we are descended from the daedra and it will be a return to the natural order of things. I know differently, though. The coming age will be a time of great horror.

The Daedra Princes are not our ancestors. Nor are they our allies. They will wash over the land, destroying all that man and mer have built over these thousands of years. The only protection from this scourge will be our true ancestors that have gone before us and watch over us even now. Many of our followers choose to participate in the Cleansing, to prepare the way for the rest of us. It is a sacrifice to be sure, but it is for the greater good.

It is a glorious ritual, friend %PCName. Our followers cleanse themselves of all of their troubles, all of their burdens here on this earth. They send themselves ahead to the ancestors, spreading our word, making ready for when we shall all join them in our fight against the daedric hordes.

Interpret it however you wish - it does seem to vaguely describe the events in Oblivion... --TheRealLurlock ^Talk 09:51, 5 September 2007 (EDT)

Lassy reference?

The quest from Lassnr in Khuul, to recover his son Tymvaul, reminded me of a quote I believe to be from Lassie. There would be a problem in the village, and Lassie (the dog) would go barking, and everyone would say "Oh no, little Tim fell in the well again?". It's also referred to by some webcomics.

I'm not sure it's a reference to the television show Lassie, but I thought it was quite clearly a reference to something.

Yep, it's a Lassie reference (character called Timmy falls down well and is (of course) rescued by Lassie, referenced and parodied many times (some listed here). Alphax 23:21, 14 February 2008 (EST)

Stupid mage

In a cave, I heard someone dying. I saw a mage wearing a magic robe. The effects were chamelion, drain health, and frost damage. She also had a book. I read it, and the robe was supposed to turn her into ice. This reminded me alot about the wood elf mage who tried to make scrolls that could make you fly, but they ended up making you jump so high that when you came down, you died. Could someone get information about this?

Update: THAT'S IT! IF NO ONE CAN GET INFORMATION ABOUT THIS, I WILL HAVE TO REASEARCH ALL THE CAVES IN BLOODMOOON TO FIND OUT ABOUT THIS SO I CAN ADD THIS EASTER EGG!! 58.174.98.29 17:27, 14 January 2008 (EST)

Update 2: O.K. The cave is called Benkongerike, but I still do not have the name of the woman who was wearing it or the name of the robe. 58.174.98.29 17:31, 14 January 2008 (EST)

The woman's name is Fryssa, and the robe is Whitewalker. --DrPhoton 03:55, 15 January 2008 (EST)

Ring of Viewing

What's the ID for Blue Dev's ring of Viewing? Zander 04:37, 27 May 2008 (EDT)

It's bm_ring_view. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 05:11, 27 May 2008 (EDT)

Oh, so it's a ring with a view, eh? Hehehe...I'll add the code to the page. Thanks. Zander 08:56, 28 May 2008 (EDT)

Huh?

"If you stand around long enough in the fort frostmoth courtyard a guard will state "It smells like grampa goat in garlic sauce...""

Is that confirmed? If so, can we find exact details on how long you stand and which guard? --Somercy 02:04, 20 August 2008 (EDT)

This looks like Data Files/Sound/Vo/i/m/bIdl_IM007.mp3 there are a few gems like this in the idle talk, "I could eat a baby's arse through a sewer grate." and "I don't recall using teleportation, and yet there I was. Alone. Naked." for example.Lukish_ Tlk Cnt 12:49, 17 October 2008 (EDT)

The Prophecy of Oddfrid White-Lip

1) The first link provided for more information about The Prophecy of Oddfrid White-Lip is a dead link. (It appears XGP Gaming merged with another site which is down as well.)

2) The second link is to The Imperial Library, but I was unable to find any information about this topic there, so I'm not sure how this one provides more information.

3) The second to last line of the prophecy is quoted as "From the waters of Oblivion for Lord Dagon forever reborn in blood and fire." I think it might be "For Lord Dagon forever reborn in blood and fire from the waters of Oblivion." instead, as found in the translated version of the Mysterium Xarxes. The sentence makes more sense that way to me, and apparently to the translator as well.

I only add this note to the talk page because it might be a little too much explanation for the Edit Summary. «Ray♦Quinn» 15:42, 16 April 2009 (EDT)

Edgar Allan Poe

I've never done the quest to cure lycanthropy so I cannot confirm it from in-game-infromation, but in the sound files I found the qoute "Nevermore", said by one of the glemoiril witches, wich can turn into a raven. This may be a reference to Edgar Allan Poe's Poem "The Raven" [1], where the line "Quoth the raven, 'Nevermore'" is found repeatedly. -- SarthesArai ^Talk 15:19, 27 May 2013 (GMT)

Hmm, I never did the quest either, but if they do, in fact, say nevermore while a raven, I would definitely support this. Jeancey (talk) 16:31, 27 May 2013 (GMT)

I would support it as well. --~The wind, forsaken~ (talk) 17:17, 27 May 2013 (GMT)

Yep. Minor Edits^{Threats•Evidence} 18:16, 27 May 2013 (GMT)

(←) This has been added to the page per this discussion. —⁠Legoless (talk) 13:26, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Icecrown Citadel Easter Egg

Castle Karstaag looks much like Icecrown Citadel from Warcraft(not to be confused with World of Warcraft MMORPG). First, Icecrown Citadel was built around Icecrown Glacier, a tower of magical ice. There is such a tower on top of Castle Karstaag. Second, the castles outer design looks much like Icecrown Citadel, 4 big towers and spiky walls, and only one gate. Karstaags gate looks much like Angrathar the Wrathgate, the main entrance to Icecrown. There are two big rocks in front of Karstaag, and similar rocks take place in the same position with the Wrathgate. Lastly, both buildings are known for their powerful residents, one being Karstaag and the other being the Lich King. I havent been into Karstaags interior yet (seriously) but the images on the net are disturbingly similar with Icecrown interior.

I know World of Warcraft was released after Bloodmoon, but the novels and comics were around before WoW MMORPG. Still, simply watch "Angrathar the Wrathgate" on Youtube and you'll be convinced. — Unsigned comment by Majestic (talk • contribs) at 20:30 on 13 June 2014

I can't say I'm convinced in the least. I really don't see any resemblance between them. Plus, it doesn't look like Icecrown Citadel was around in the comics/novels (as far as I know), which would mean Castle Karstaag couldn't have been modeled after it. •WoahBro^►talk 00:39, 14 June 2014 (GMT)

I have never been to Castle Karstaag before. I just saw a screenshot and immediately thought they were lookalike. As for dates, Bloodmoon was released in the near-end of 2003. World of Warcraft was released in 2004 and they HAD pretty much of the lore before its release, because they would soon need to create expansions based on the lore. Just watch the video.Majestic (talk) 00:51, 14 June 2014 (GMT)

I have been to Castle Karstaag, and judging by what I've seen in pictures and that video, I'm still not convinced. Also, Icecrown Citadel was added with Wrath of the Lich King, even further from the release of Bloodmoon and I can't find any reference to it before Bloodmoon. It's not an egg. •WoahBro^►talk 00:58, 14 June 2014 (GMT)

Forget about the MMORPG stuff. WotLK was released after Bloodmoon, yes, but Icecrown was there before WoW, it is simply the lore of Warcraft. WoW was built upon it. Majestic (talk) 01:06, 14 June 2014 (GMT)

Forget the lore, it doesn't look similar like you said it does. Just because two places may look similar, doesn't mean it's an easter egg. •WoahBro^►talk 01:09, 14 June 2014 (GMT)

Well, as I said I never been to Karstaag and actually visited it today after seeing a screenshot. You may not see the similarity because you saw Karstaag before. But mine was the first time I saw it (first time I transported to Solstheim actually), and it really gave me the WoW feeling. You're saying it isnt an egg and I'm saying it IS EXACTLY ICECROWN. Focus on the points I stated, the gate, the icy tower, the rocks at the gates, the residents and the design. They dont have to place exactly the same Icecrown for this to be a reference, they just placed the obvious stuff. Anyway I will ask this around. Meanwhile lets see other peoples opinions. Majestic (talk) 01:20, 14 June 2014 (GMT)

(←) I don't see the resemblance either, but ignoring that, I can't find anything about Icecrown Citadel being mentioned in anything released before 2003. Given the timing of Bloodmoon's release and any mention of the citadel any resemblance is purely a coincidence. The wowwiki even has a note that the citadel bears a resemblance to the citadels in LOTR, and Castle Karstaag has even less resemblance to them. Silence is Golden^{Break the Silence} 02:09, 14 June 2014 (GMT)

It is in the Lore of Warcraft, yes, but that lore was released after bloodmoon. It 100% isn't an easter egg because you can't reference something that was created AFTER the thing you created. Also, I play WoW and I have seen Karstaag in-game and I just don't see the resemblance that you seem to see... Jeancey (talk) 04:53, 14 June 2014 (GMT)

Minor word change.

On the last part of the section "The Prophecy of Oddfrid White-Lip", the page states "And the last line, excluding the word 'marble', are the last words of Uriel Septim on the Oblivion Trailer, and the movie that plays when the game is left too long without loading a save file. ". I propose that, to be more clear, it is changed to "And the last line, excluding the word 'marble', are the last words of Uriel Septim on the Oblivion Trailer, and the movie that plays when the game is left too long without loading a save file after the player has died. " --208.114.129.94 22:56, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

The last line is also spoken by the Emperor in-game in his last speech to the player during the Tutorial, both with and without the word "marble" depending on the circumstances under which the speech is initiated. Rather than trying to exhaustively enumerate every instance, condition, and variation in which the line is used, I believe it would be far cleaner and simpler to change the line to read: "The last line references the final words spoken by Emperor Uriel Septim in TES IV:Oblivion." and leave it at that.

Just my $0.02 worth. — Wolfborn^(Howl) 07:22, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

"I came here for the waters. I was misinformed."

Dunmer males in Solstheim/Thirsk/Raven Rock/Fort Frostmoth will sometimes utter "I came here for the waters. I was misinformed.". Seems a pretty clear reference to this scene from classic film Casablanca --Agiletek (talk) 04:10, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Sounds like it. —⁠Legoless (talk) 08:18, 30 April 2021 (UTC)