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Wikia

If you are having problems (and I noticed you did with the google analytics/squid conflict), the offer of free hosting at Wikia is still open. We can handle the problems of caching for you and ensure it won't become a bigger problem as the wiki grows. Please email me at angela@wikia.com if you would like to explore this. We have lots of options open, including custom URLs (like wowwiki.com) and different skins (like marveldatabase.com), 20 different anti-spam tools, and access to google analytics (which we've made work with squid). There would be no problem installing your extensions and the community would remain in control of the content. This page can help to answer others questions you might have about joining Wikia. Angela 14:01, 21 February 2008 (EST)

I've chosen to move this comment to a new section because it is not directly related to the previous topic (e.g., reporting a problem or suggesting a specific fix to an existing problem), and any followup is just going to diverge even further from the previous topic.

I'm also basically confused about the purpose of this comment. If this is an issue that Daveh would like to discuss with the UESP community, I think everyone would be interested in what Daveh has to say, and would be happy to provide Daveh with feedback on any suggestions. But until Daveh makes a statement that he thinks we need to consider a move to Wikia (and for those wondering, he has never made any such statement on the wiki or in any offline discussions that I have had with him about the site), I don't think that a discussion can accomplish anything. Any discussion about server configuration, server maintenance, or site costs has to involve Daveh. Since any decision about who runs (and potentially profits from) UESP hinges upon questions about the server and costs, without Daveh's participation it would just be a dead-end, abstract discussion.

Furthermore, there are countless complications inherent in any implied move to Wikia, none of which are addressed by Angela's comments. It's not really worth starting to list the complications, because, as I just said, I think this is currently a dead-end discussion. But let's just say that there are problems far more fundamental than whether or not wikimedia extensions are available at Wikia.

In other words, until Daveh starts a discussion, I don't think there's any reason for the community to spend any time being distracted by this issue. --Nephele^Talk 18:40, 22 February 2008 (EST)

Given the willingness of Wikia to completely and blatantly ignore the terms of CC licensing (as it did when it started hosting OblivioWiki's non-commercial licensed content as a commercial site), I am 100% against any move to Wikia. But as Nephele said, this was an out of the blue distraction. Unless Daveh is actually interested in this, there's no reason to debate it further -- I just wanted to note that some of us have serious objections to such a proposal. --Wrye 22:09, 22 February 2008 (EST)

I've been meaning to post something concerning this but have been terribly busy and I figure my limited time is better spent doing other things on the site. Wikia (Angela and Jim) have contacted me a few times in the past year or so inviting UESP to join Wikia. While I appreciate the offers I have no intention of moving in the near future for a variety of reasons. Personally I'm rather proud of having one of the larger private wikis out there and hope the admins and other editors feel the same way (because I'm far from the top of the list in making the Wiki as successful as it is). -- Daveh 23:58, 22 February 2008 (EST)

Cool! :) --Wrye 00:27, 23 February 2008 (EST)

That's really refreshing to hear, Daveh. Since you hadn't said anything, I assumed that there was really nothing to this proposal from Wikia, but now having heard it from you, I can totally relax about it. --Ratwar 01:00, 23 February 2008 (EST)

I completely agree with Wrye's points about OblivioWiki - it's not the only wiki they absorbed without regard to the licensing - and I also find the way Angela stepped in to take advantage of a small site problem in such a public manner rather distasteful. It's a huge relief to hear that Daveh isn't interested, and I hope that the "near future" lasts a long, long time! –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 13:38, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Yep, good that you will be private in the near future *thumbs up* We (from tamriel-almanach.de) got also an offer from wikia to join them but we saw no advantages to move so we will also stay privat. They started after our answer a german wiki on wikia were they copied over 1300 articles from us + images! Now it's closed of course because i had luck to find it during my researches). It sounds strange but i think wikia is currently on a crusade through all the wikis, good that there are still people who resists! Wish the best for you guys that you will stay free. --Deepfighter 09:50, 24 April 2008 (EDT)

Wikia stays a problem, at least in Germany. After the end of the wikia-wiki discribed by Deepfighter, we just have anothe wikia-wiki OblivioWiki that copies images from all sites to find. We've found about 30 images from the Tamriel-Almanach in their Imagelist. During that search I noticed also images from other sites, like uesp, the Imperial Libraray or GamesPlasma. I felt obligated to inform you about this problem. Here the images from uesp, I found their:

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With best wishes --Killfetzer 17:52, 19 August 2008 (EDT)

Thanks for pointing that out, Killfetzer. Unfortunately, we've been kept busy enough just with the English language wikia sites. Now the german one has been added to my bookmarks, too :| --Nephele^Talk 11:24, 22 August 2008 (EDT)

Anybody that knows what the German for "prod" is, please prod the following images on that site that have all been copied from UESP: [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14], [15], [16], [17], [18], [19], [20], [21], [22], [23], [24], [25], [26], [27], [28], [29], [30], [31], [32], [33], [34] –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 12:23, 22 August 2008 (EDT)

The german word for "prod" is "anstoßen". I saw today that you fixed at least your pictures, he has still pictures from our page...it is a shame what wikia does with his wikis i wrote for one week that we have a problem with on user, but no response arrived from the wikia-admins. The adminstrators of these "cheap" wikis, there are such idiots, most of them don't know how to rule their wikis (of course everyone could create a wiki). *arrghhh* It makes me really angry. But we will fix this somehow. It is good that our both sites work in this case together, so if we find something on other pages from uesp, we will tell you of course like Killfetzer did. And if you need in some cases an german-translation please don't be shy we can help you out with this stuff. Have a good time here and a lot of sucess =) See you --Deepfighter 16:15, 25 August 2008 (EDT)

Nephele had started a discussion ([35]) and I added the names of those images. I went through all the pages that used them and removed the images so their admins wouldn't have to. To be fair, BanjoTooie apologised. Only you know which images have come from your site: I looked through all their images (using Special:Newimages - luckily there weren't many) and then checked out the ones that looked familiar. You may need to do the same. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 16:24, 25 August 2008 (EDT)